Sep 28, 2022
In the episode, Dan connects with US Army veteran, logistics
expert, and creator of Meaning Forge, Jim Benton. As the name suggests, Jim is deeply
concerned about meaning – and he’s on a mission to help others use
their experiences to forge meaning in their own lives. He’s
developed an interview framework based on mythological symbols that
helps his subjects uncover their purpose and envision their legacy.
Dan and Jim talk about how the Forge came about and much more as
they serve up a conversation rich in meaning, purpose, and a fair
share of symbols. Jim’s perspective is one you won’t want to
In This Episode
- (3:10) James talks about his journey
- (12:36) The turning point in his life
- (14:35) Key lesson he learned
- (19:46) What are the six hard leadership lessons?
- (26:15) "I failed in this relationship."
- (33:49) How James helped people find their meaning with
- (48:07) Difference between meaning and purpose
- (55:10) Lessons James learned from his previous interviews
- "Leaders make leaders because it's a developmental process.
Leaders have to spot talent in other leaders and in that raw state
start to cultivate, create space for those people to lead." - James
- "Life is not about destination ladies and gentlemen, it's about
the journey; unfortunately, or fortunately!" - James (30.54)
- “Having some grace and self forgiveness. So you're gonna make
it, gonna make mistakes. Make a decision. See what happens!” -
- “Let's talk subordinates. You own that relationship. Like you
own their failures, you own their successes. And of course when
they succeed, you have to defer. Like when you own it, you have to
give it to them.” - James (25.41)
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